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	<title>Comments on: In The Line Of Wire: Ep 10 &#8211; Parvez Iftikhar, CEO of USF</title>
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		<title>By: Parvez Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parvez Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Vikram. You are absolutely corrrect about e-living. But all the applications that you have mentioned, require rural areas to be connected to rest of the world. Fiber will provide that. All the rest will still have to be done, as you have said, by the communities, by the society and by the Government. USF will certainly contribute its bit to some of that as well. But one has to start somewhere and therefore to start with we are getting Broadband Infrastructure built, where access is available and getting access built, where it is not.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;400&#039;,&#039;Parvez Iftikhar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Vikram. You are absolutely corrrect about e-living. But all the applications that you have mentioned, require rural areas to be connected to rest of the world. Fiber will provide that. All the rest will still have to be done, as you have said, by the communities, by the society and by the Government. USF will certainly contribute its bit to some of that as well. But one has to start somewhere and therefore to start with we are getting Broadband Infrastructure built, where access is available and getting access built, where it is not.
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		<title>By: Vickram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vickram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Iftikhar Sb: &quot;Having said that, right now we are working on, what we percieve as, more important issues - like fiber access. Fiber will not only help Broadband, it will help EVERYTHING that is ICT. 30% of 400 odd Tehsils in Pakistan fo not have fiber access.&quot;

The technical superiority of fiber over other media for data transmission is unquestionable. However, installing fiber is almost certainly the prerogative of organisations that can wield substantial money power, aside from the technical aspects (which aren&#039;t really all that different in complexity from almost any other technology, no matter how commonplace those may seem today). 

Using broadband, though, is a mindset issue, involving as it does on the one hand devices, accounts, payments and so on to get started, some of these not being part of everyone&#039;s daily lives, and on the other hand, its capabilities, spreading across e-information, e-learning, e-payments, e-governance, e-tc., and perhaps something we will recognise one day as e-living. 

My point is that it is a little unrealistic to expect people who have never experienced some or all of these things to take to them like a duck to water. Fiber deployment is managed through centralised organisations, and this is a different mindset, usually exclusive of local involvement. Further provisions of services will naturally (organically) tend towards more centralisation and exclusivity. I think this will partly slow down adoption, and partly skew it towards elite sections of society, which is already seen in the cities.

An alternative approach will aim towards organising local people to get involved, building local networks, interconnecting them, using the IXs wisely (with audited and frequently reviewed policies), decentralising their deployment locally as traffic builds, and similar measures.

This may not look as neat on paper or deliver results as initially quick as the PPP model (public-private-partnership, not the other well-known acronym), nor is the task of identifying and nurturing local (self-help or corporatised, both) groups simple. However, it will change the landscape from the present, largely absentee, landlord dominated model, and encourage the growth of the local economy. That could possibly lead to a more meaningful outcome.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;399&#039;,&#039;Vickram&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Iftikhar Sb: &#8220;Having said that, right now we are working on, what we percieve as, more important issues &#8211; like fiber access. Fiber will not only help Broadband, it will help EVERYTHING that is ICT. 30% of 400 odd Tehsils in Pakistan fo not have fiber access.&#8221;</p>
<p>The technical superiority of fiber over other media for data transmission is unquestionable. However, installing fiber is almost certainly the prerogative of organisations that can wield substantial money power, aside from the technical aspects (which aren&#8217;t really all that different in complexity from almost any other technology, no matter how commonplace those may seem today). </p>
<p>Using broadband, though, is a mindset issue, involving as it does on the one hand devices, accounts, payments and so on to get started, some of these not being part of everyone&#8217;s daily lives, and on the other hand, its capabilities, spreading across e-information, e-learning, e-payments, e-governance, e-tc., and perhaps something we will recognise one day as e-living. </p>
<p>My point is that it is a little unrealistic to expect people who have never experienced some or all of these things to take to them like a duck to water. Fiber deployment is managed through centralised organisations, and this is a different mindset, usually exclusive of local involvement. Further provisions of services will naturally (organically) tend towards more centralisation and exclusivity. I think this will partly slow down adoption, and partly skew it towards elite sections of society, which is already seen in the cities.</p>
<p>An alternative approach will aim towards organising local people to get involved, building local networks, interconnecting them, using the IXs wisely (with audited and frequently reviewed policies), decentralising their deployment locally as traffic builds, and similar measures.</p>
<p>This may not look as neat on paper or deliver results as initially quick as the PPP model (public-private-partnership, not the other well-known acronym), nor is the task of identifying and nurturing local (self-help or corporatised, both) groups simple. However, it will change the landscape from the present, largely absentee, landlord dominated model, and encourage the growth of the local economy. That could possibly lead to a more meaningful outcome.
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		<title>By: Jehan Ara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jehan Ara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vickram, we will give it a shot.

@Parvez, thanks for responding to so many questions - in addition to the interview. It is refreshing to have someone who is part of a semi-government organization respond so clearly instead of evading the issues.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;397&#039;,&#039;Jehan Ara&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vickram, we will give it a shot.</p>
<p>@Parvez, thanks for responding to so many questions &#8211; in addition to the interview. It is refreshing to have someone who is part of a semi-government organization respond so clearly instead of evading the issues.
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		<title>By: rabia garib</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabia garib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vickram - Since the content is already there, we&#039;re using extracts for articles in the magazine itself.. Will Google Voice be that accurate? I&#039;ve tried other software but it IS more tedious to have it done this way... Shall give GV a try..&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;396&#039;,&#039;rabia garib&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vickram &#8211; Since the content is already there, we&#8217;re using extracts for articles in the magazine itself.. Will Google Voice be that accurate? I&#8217;ve tried other software but it IS more tedious to have it done this way&#8230; Shall give GV a try..
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		<title>By: Vickram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vickram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be good to get (if possible, within a few days of posting the video) transcripts of the dialogue. It may be possible to use Google Voice to automate some of this task, but it is worth the tedium - critical interviews like this deserve study.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;395&#039;,&#039;Vickram&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good to get (if possible, within a few days of posting the video) transcripts of the dialogue. It may be possible to use Google Voice to automate some of this task, but it is worth the tedium &#8211; critical interviews like this deserve study.
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		<title>By: Parvez Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parvez Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Role of ministries other than IT.
IT ministry is not setting the USF direction on their own. The direction is set by the policies of the government (like the Telecom Policy, USF Policy, Braodband Policy, etc.). These policies have been debated/discussed and approved by the cabinet, where all the minstries are represented!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;394&#039;,&#039;Parvez Iftikhar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Role of ministries other than IT.<br />
IT ministry is not setting the USF direction on their own. The direction is set by the policies of the government (like the Telecom Policy, USF Policy, Braodband Policy, etc.). These policies have been debated/discussed and approved by the cabinet, where all the minstries are represented!
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		<title>By: Parvez Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parvez Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who decides the direction of USF?
Jehan rightly noted - its the Board. And thanks to the Public-Private-Partnership model, Board has representation from Government&#039;s political side (IT Minister), Government&#039;s Burocratic side (Federal Secretary IT), IT &amp; T Minstry&#039;s Technical side (Member Telecom) and the Regulator (Chairman PTA). Plus it has representatives from Telecom Service Providers - Mobile, LDI/Fixed and ISPs. Plus a representative of Consumers&#039; Associations. In my opinion, adding more (ministries etc.) may be counter-productive as more the voices, more difficult it becomes to arrive at decisions.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;393&#039;,&#039;Parvez Iftikhar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who decides the direction of USF?<br />
Jehan rightly noted &#8211; its the Board. And thanks to the Public-Private-Partnership model, Board has representation from Government&#8217;s political side (IT Minister), Government&#8217;s Burocratic side (Federal Secretary IT), IT &amp; T Minstry&#8217;s Technical side (Member Telecom) and the Regulator (Chairman PTA). Plus it has representatives from Telecom Service Providers &#8211; Mobile, LDI/Fixed and ISPs. Plus a representative of Consumers&#8217; Associations. In my opinion, adding more (ministries etc.) may be counter-productive as more the voices, more difficult it becomes to arrive at decisions.
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		<title>By: Parvez Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parvez Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now in respone to Tariq Mustafa Sb&#039;s exceellent comments:
Let me say at the outset that we in USF are open to any proposal (like IX) that will bring improvement in Broadband penetration in Pakistan. Please bring a solid proposal to us, we&#039;ll run it through our process (including board approval)and implement it. Having said that, right now we are working on, what we percieve as, more important issues -  like fiber access. Fiber will not only help Broadband, it will help EVERYTHING that is ICT. 30% of 400 odd Tehsils in Pakistan fo not have fiber access. To address this, we have signed first of the 10 contracts that we intend to sign. Bids for the 2nd one have benn called through Press. Surveys for the 3rd and the 4th ones are complete and will be advertised within the next 7 to 10 days.  Its up to the service providers to match our speed!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;392&#039;,&#039;Parvez Iftikhar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now in respone to Tariq Mustafa Sb&#8217;s exceellent comments:<br />
Let me say at the outset that we in USF are open to any proposal (like IX) that will bring improvement in Broadband penetration in Pakistan. Please bring a solid proposal to us, we&#8217;ll run it through our process (including board approval)and implement it. Having said that, right now we are working on, what we percieve as, more important issues &#8211;  like fiber access. Fiber will not only help Broadband, it will help EVERYTHING that is ICT. 30% of 400 odd Tehsils in Pakistan fo not have fiber access. To address this, we have signed first of the 10 contracts that we intend to sign. Bids for the 2nd one have benn called through Press. Surveys for the 3rd and the 4th ones are complete and will be advertised within the next 7 to 10 days.  Its up to the service providers to match our speed!
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		<title>By: Parvez Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parvez Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding speaking at events. Well its always a debate going on within one&#039;s mind - should we be speaking at ICT and other such events to show the world what we are doing or shoud we be going to the far flung areas and telling the people there what is being done for them? One LOVES to let the people of rest of the world know that Pakistan is after all not that bad a place. How far one is successful? Its for others to tell. In fact those in the field of Media should please tell us what more we could do to help Pakistan&#039;s image.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;391&#039;,&#039;Parvez Iftikhar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding speaking at events. Well its always a debate going on within one&#8217;s mind &#8211; should we be speaking at ICT and other such events to show the world what we are doing or shoud we be going to the far flung areas and telling the people there what is being done for them? One LOVES to let the people of rest of the world know that Pakistan is after all not that bad a place. How far one is successful? Its for others to tell. In fact those in the field of Media should please tell us what more we could do to help Pakistan&#8217;s image.
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		<title>By: Parvez Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parvez Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding measuring the impact. Trust me we are aourselves very much interested to know the impact. Up to now we have concentrated in determining if the subsidy winner has delivered on his promises or not. This is done with the help of &quot;Technical Audits&quot; conducted usually by non-USF neutral auditors at pre-determined milestones of 25% completion, then 50%,75% and 100%. And since the phenomenon of USF is not very old in Pakistan, we have yet to see one &quot;Lot&quot; completed 100%. The impact measurement will certainly follow that. And I assure you it will not be in too distant future.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;390&#039;,&#039;Parvez Iftikhar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding measuring the impact. Trust me we are aourselves very much interested to know the impact. Up to now we have concentrated in determining if the subsidy winner has delivered on his promises or not. This is done with the help of &#8220;Technical Audits&#8221; conducted usually by non-USF neutral auditors at pre-determined milestones of 25% completion, then 50%,75% and 100%. And since the phenomenon of USF is not very old in Pakistan, we have yet to see one &#8220;Lot&#8221; completed 100%. The impact measurement will certainly follow that. And I assure you it will not be in too distant future.
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